Obamacare: “Pinata or Trojan Horse?”

One of the things about most liberals’ logic that tickles my funny bone more than anything else is the way in which I can easily win debates against them as their so called refutations only further buttress my arguments. They shoot themselves in the foot as they try hard to justify the socialist agendas being forced on all of us liberty loving folks in America. The SCOTUS’ recent hearing of both sides of the argument on the constitutionality of Obamacare is no different a topic and is the single most important decision in our battle to preserve individual liberty and keep federal government in its proper place. Now healthcare reform has been a contentious topic long before President Obama. We all love to hate our health insurance coverage for a variety of reasons and then there are those who just don’t have coverage because they can’t afford it, are unemployed or other reasons – nearly fifty million Americans are uninsured (less than 20% of the US population). The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) which has been informally dubbed “Obamacare” is the Trojan horse of federal healthcare legislation. Cunningly, the drafters, led by President Obama, are seeking to try and fulfill a major campaign promise in a hurry so it won’t be so glaringly apparent in November that he has been more of a figure head than commander in chief, for nearly four years, enjoying lavish vacations and shopping sprees while so many have found themselves in the soup lines. With Obamacare, Barack Obama is dangling before those 50 million desperate, uninsured Americans several enticing things including (but not limited to):

  • No annual or lifetime coverage caps on coverage.
  • No co-payments, co-insurance or deductibles for health benefits that are considered to be a part of an essential benefits package/preventative care (Oh, I can only imagine how many things will suddenly be considered “preventative”)
  • No discrimination (this is a big one) for individuals with pre-existing conditions, whom will initially be a part of a “high-risk pool”.
  • Dependents will be permitted to remain on their parents’ plan until age 26, including dependents that no longer live with their parents, are not a dependent on a parent’s tax return, are no longer a student, or are married. (Now why would a married person still be considered a “dependent”of their parents? I’m still trying to figure that one out.)
  • Insurers are prohibited from dropping policyholders from the coverage when they get sick.

Let me tell you, at first glance it all sounds wonderful (insert sarcastic smirk here). I, for one, have learned in life to be very cautious when a thing looks and sounds to good to be true and my mental alarms are going off justifiably so when I read things like these that come/will come along with it (not a full list of course):

  • Employers must disclose the value of the benefits they provided beginning in 2012 for each employee’s health insurance coverage on the employees’ annual Form W-2’s.
  • All new plans must cover certain preventive services such as mammograms and colonoscopies without charging deductibles, co-payment or co-insurance. Women’s preventative services such as contraception and domestic violence screening will be covered without “cost-sharing”.
  • An annual penalty of $95, or up to 1% of income, whichever is greater, will be imposed on individuals who do not secure insurance; this will rise to $695, or 2.5% of income, by 2016. This is an individual limit; families have a limit of $2,085
  • A $2,000 per employee tax penalty will be imposed on employers with more than 50 employees who do not offer health insurance to their full-time workers.
  • Revenue increases from a new $2,500 limit on tax-free contributions to flexible spending accounts. (So we can no longer prepare for our own healthcare costs? Oh now only up to $2500, now we all know that can be sucked dry from 2 dental visits nowadays.)

Now keep in mind that the five things immediately above carry with them serious implications and will set even more dangerous precedents for future federal governmental intrusion into our lives, just as Social Security set for Obamacare, if you can imagine intrusion of that magnitude. If I have to explain the implications to you, then you’re probably one of those people who could have seen this list:

  • Candy is prohibited from the diets of policyholders.
  • Each policyholder must brush their teeth before 7pm.
  • If you are caught eating meat you pay a penalty.
  • Only one cup of caffeinated coffee allowed per week.
  • Policyholders must spend 4 hours per day exercising.

and still exclaimed “Obamacare today, Obamacare tomorrow & Obamacare forever!”so I won’t waste my time with explanations. My close friend and fellow conservative blogger Walter Myers III masterfully wrote in his blog entitled, “Obamacare & Now You Know What’s In It” the following which sums up what the federal government’s role in healthcare should be limited to and I concur:

“First, this is about respecting the Constitution. We shouldn’t be here in the first place because ObamaCare is distinctly unconstitutional. The federal government has absolutely no role in healthcare (including Social Security and Medicare), other than to promote competition within the industry through a proper use of the commerce clause. Beyond that, they need to stay out of the subject (but I do believe the states do in order to serve the truly indigent).”

When the federal government goes beyond merely promoting competition through proper use of the commerce clause and tries to mimic the healthcare of socialist nations the entire process becomes too bureaucratic. Control, as well as accountability moves furthest away from the point of greatest need – individual states. Why not utilize the commerce clause properly to allow insurance companies to sell across state lines which will promote competition and bring down costs? Why not make sure that in fairness, individuals that do not need it, are not forced to pay for certain unnecessary or gender dependent components like chiropractic medicine, mammograms or colonoscopies? Why on Earth, Jupiter and every planet in between would any citizen think that after the mess that has become of Social Security and Medicare that we should entrust our health needs to a president who doesn’t even seem to know that the Supreme Court is here to decide if a law passed by Congress is constitutional or not, even though he appointed two of the “unelected” justices himself?!

Getting back to the liberal logic I mentioned in the beginning of this missive, so many have said to me, “You’re wrong! The government has required citizens to purchase insurance before! Obamacare is nothing new!”. They are referring to the 1790’s when the first Congress did in fact require shipowners and seaman to buy medical insurance. This was due to the dangers of being at sea, namely disease and injuries, which had claimed many seaman’s lives, so much so that many men were discouraged from entering maritime careers. Liberals deliberately misinterpret this as a precedent for Obamacare when it is not. It is simply an example of the proper use of the commerce clause actually, as commerce in the 1790’s was dependent upon those seaman and shipowners. Moreover, Congress utilized the commerce clause to mandate healthcare for a specific part of the population in need, not all, because foreign commerce could not take place without them. Adam Smith gave to us a very fitting caveat which we cannot ignore this time:

“As soon as government management begins it upsets the natural equilibrium of industrial relations, and each interference only requires further bureaucratic control until the end is the tyranny of the totalitarian state.”

Listen folks, we must see Obamacare for what it is, government “management” at its worse and a Trojan horse being led into our lives by meddlesome Liberals, with President Obama at the forefront. Don’t be fooled by Liberal attempts to make that Trojan horse look like a pinata, full of pleasant surprises when it’s full contents are released. Let’s not forget the 2008 Democratic primary where then Senator Barack Obama scolded Hillary Clinton’s healthcare plan for it’s individual mandate because it “It forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you can’t afford it, and you pay a penalty if you don’t.” Really Mr. president? So why are we now  in 2012 before the SCOTUS over the very aspect of Hillary Clinton’s healthcare plan which you campaigned against? Were you misrepresenting yourself then or now?Lastly, the ultimate goal of Obamacare is not to provide quality healthcare for all, but for the federal government to gain complete bureaucratic control of our lives through seemingly benevolent legislation. If Liberals are so concerned about the availability of healthcare for those without it, then they, like the first Congress, can enact legislation addressing the needs of that portion of the population, while leaving the healthcare choices the rest of us have made for ourselves in tact.

53 Comments

  1. Linda Wagman says:

    Talitha, you hit the nail on the head. My main concern with “Obamacare” is this: When the Federal Government gets involved with anything, be it the Post Office, Social Security, Medicare, it is never good. I can’t think of one government program that is not rife with fraud, waste, and red tape. And “once I found out what was in it”, I was horrified. I have good insurance right now, and I don’t know what is going to happen to it. I really think that I will be one of those who is prescribed a pain pill, and told to just go away.

    • Thanks so much Linda, I appreciate your feedback. You are right on the money on how federal government involvement the outcome is usually not a good one. That is why the framers designed our Constitution to limit the federal government and Liberals just don’t get that!

  2. Joyce Tyler says:

    GREAT article! so humorous and so very true! love it and sharing! Talitha you rock!

  3. Jake says:

    Great write up Talitha McEachin. My biggest fears about this are: 1. Government has your health records, medical, mental and and god knows what else. When you visit your shrink, for those who do, they are not allowed to disclose anything. Now government will have that info when and how they want to use it. 2. Death Panels. Not a creation of the ‘Radical Right’, but the actual real thing that the left is trying to divert and pretend it will not happen here. Sure, it is everywhere else where they have government healthcare, but not in US, no, of course not. They will not decide on how to save money according how ‘important’ you are to society. 3. Government agency decides who needs anything, any treatment and anything else that we can imagine. Imagine Motor Vehicle or Unemployment office type of service in your healthcare. 4. They think we have lines in ER now, wait if god forbid Obamacare goes into effect. No responsibility from patients and understaffed hospitals. It will be a nightmare. 5. Numerous agencies created to oversee and force everyone to have this nightmare of the ‘Healthcare’ or is it actually something for the government to put another knife into the public’s back? There are numerous problems with this. Reagan warned us about it. They are playing into people’s emotional aspect and it sounds good on paper, just like Socialism and anything else that can never work in the real life situation.

    • Thanks so much Jake and you are absolutely right. The government will eventually use health records to discriminate if this passes. I believe that HIPPA was one of the first main steps in that regard. All records are computerized so Big Brother can watch…etc People really do not understand what is really going on here! The government would also decide who gets treatment for what – the implications are endless. It’s going to be like the ineffective healthcare that exists with public (local) clinics & hospitals on a national level. Obamacare must go!

    • Jake you are also so right that we were absolutely warned by Reagan & Adam Smith as referenced in the quote above. The individual mandate portion is there because without it many of those nearly 50 million people will opt out of it so they have to try & force it on us.

  4. Eileen Evans says:

    I’ve been involved with health care delivery issues for the past 30 years. The Kaiser Family Foundation is an excellent and objective resource if you want to understand why the need for reform is so urgent. The concerns of every shareholder & interest group were included in PPACA. I live in one of those 26 states; ‘constitutionality’ is a ruse to get a Black man out of the White House, keep voters from catching on to their politicians’ ineptness & financed by insurance brokers who reap benefits from a system that poorly serves its market & our national interests.

    Our health care costs have been escalating out of control for the past 30 years. Various segments of the delivery system (e.g. insurers, providers, consumers) don’t sync as well as they should. All are riddled with poor info management systems, waste, errors & inefficiencies. Add these problems to changing demographics and you have Medicare, the 800 lb gorilla.

    Our per capita health care costs are the highest; our outcomes, not so great. Premature birth outcomes in Cuba are better than California’s.

    Premiums are soaring for policies that cover less

    Emergency rooms aren’t set up to provide on-going care but they are legally obligated to serve patients regardless of immigrant status. We’re ALL footing the bill to compensate providers for care via padded medical bills and insurance premiums. Everyone who doesn’t have to use emergency rooms for medical care saves me money

    Our tax dollars are being redirected to support policies & practices that will improve costs & quality of our healthcare. If the average working person had access to routine annual check-ups, the blood work would reveal, let’s say, diabetes during its earliest phase when treatment and management of the disease are more cost effective.
    Currently, that same person will most likely ignore their symptoms until they’re in crisis. That’s when they appear at the emergency room and, by that time, hospitalization may be required. Hospitals set their fees to include uncollectibles (i.e. said uninsured) and the rest of us pay those increased costs

    It’s private universal coverage that‘s administered by private insurers regulated by the government. Restaurants have to comply with their cities’ health & safety ordinances. Does that make McDonald’s ‘government run?’

    Economic recovery is impeded. Businesses can’t plan or expand without some degree of certainty about operating expense items like health care.

    “Government shouldn’t be telling businesses what to do, they said, and it shouldn’t be restructuring the whole health-care market. Better to CENTER POLICY AROUND PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND USE AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE COMBINED WITH SUBSIDIES AND RULES MAKING SURE INSURERS COULDN’T TURN PEOPLE AWAY. That way, the parts of the system that were working would remain intact, and the government would only really involve itself in the parts that weren’t working.
    That was what Sen. John Chafee — and Bob Bennett, Kit Bond, Chuck Grassley, Orrin Hatch and Richard Lugar — proposed in 1994. It’s what Mitt Romney passed in Massachusetts. And so it was what Democrats proposed in 2010. The Republican answer? “Hell no, you can’t!”
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/11/the_political_history_of_healt.html

    • Hi Eileen, I never said reform was not necessary and I don’t know an American who doesn’t but Obamacare with it’s individual mandate, is unconstitutional and is not the way at all. Consider the rhetorical questions I have raised above in the article -“Why not utilize the commerce clause properly to allow insurance companies to sell across state lines which will promote competition and bring down costs? Why not make sure that in fairness, individuals that do not need it, are not forced to pay for certain unnecessary or gender dependent components like chiropractic medicine, mammograms or colonoscopies? (both of those things will cut costs tremendously & make healthcare more affordable) I appreciate your comment & will peruse the info/links you have shared, and get back to you.

    • Eileen Evans says:

      Talitha, I’ve found myself re-considering some of my ‘trusted’ sources & even reading their bios to assess qualifications (pundits & the blogosphere are entertainment, not reportage).

      The health insurance industry is submitting itself to federal regulation in exchange for 32M new customers. In addition to complying with state insurance regulations, they must spend 80-85% of every premium dollar on medical care and health care quality improvement. If they don’t, the insurance companies will be required to provide a rebate to their customers starting in 2012.

      (http://www.healthcare.gov/news/factsheets/2010/11/medical-loss-ratio.html)

      PPACA allows sales across states boundaries:
      “HHS, in conjunction with NAIC, will issue regulations by July 1, 2013 allowing states to enter into interstate compacts allowing insurers to sell products in the individual market across state lines. Each state wishing to participate in an interstate compact would need to enact Legislation authorizing the compact and the compact is subject to HHS approval. Compacts Cannot be in effect before January 1, 2016.” (https://www.bcbsri.com/BCBSRIWeb/pdf/Fact_Sheet_Federal_Reform_New_Insurers.pdf)

      This is socialized medicine:
      “Exact definitions vary, but the term refers to any system of medical care that is publicly financed and government administered. If the system of care is publicly financed and privately delivered, it is called a single-payer system. This is what Canada has.”

      “The original meaning was confined to systems in which the government operates health care facilities and employs health care professionals.[10][11][12][13] This narrower usage would apply to the British National Health Service hospital trusts and health systems that operate in other countries as diverse as Finland, Spain, Israel, and Cuba”
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialized_medicine

      Socialized medicine is a system in which the government owns and operates both the financing of health care and its delivery. Cell A in the chart represents socialized medicine. (http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/what-is-socialized-medicine-a-taxonomy-of-health-care-systems/)

      The exchanges will be the vehicles for competition. Obamacare is an initial ‘blueprint.’ Improving our healthcare delivery system presents unique challenges. Our models (the French & German) are smaller with dense population centers. We are 330M, diverse & spread from sea to shining sea. The state exchanges can set regional standards. The Act funds pilot projects to encourage innovation within states.

      Talitha, my world includes talented activists & we’re all pragmatists. ‘Big government’ & ‘free markets’ are only labels used by theoreticians, pundits, & the scholarly. Our criteria are competence & outcomes. Under Reagan, de-regulation was the ideal path to economic growth. But shrinking the size of government also reduced oversight. Instead of freedom and economic expansion, greed, criminality, and incompetence resulted in financial industry melt-downs. The same people who pushed for de-regulation were once the most fastidious proponents for law and order. Yet when expected to obey laws, they whine that the
      government is taking over! We taxpayers keep getting stuck with the bill.

      Our health care delivery quality and costs are enmeshed with systems over which the industry has no control (e.g. Energy, agricultural, education, commerce, transportation, etc). The federal government is finally trying to set and implement policies to get everything going in the same direction. It’s the only entity that, in partnership with the private sector, can.

      “Said Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans, the industry trade group.…..insurers say they know they cannot fix many of the problems in the health care system without the support of the government. “This should be a public-private partnership to achieve the type of reform people are looking for,” said Mr. Zirkelbach.

      Everyone benefited when our children could pay for college with low interest loans from the taxes we paid. De-Regulation turned the program over to banks; their operating costs were higher and our taxes paid their bonuses! The U.S. no longer leads the world in producing the college graduates we need. Waste of our tax dollars was eliminated by resuming direct student loans.

      BTW, every insurance provider has its own unique operations & info systems. It’s a major element of waste & inefficiency. To get paid, healthcare providers need for more resources increased operating costs. HIPAA & PPACA integrate information systems so consumers can compare coverage. Sorry to disappoint but Big Brother isn’t interested in you.
      One objective of reforms ~ if you’re in a car accident while vacationing in Miami, the ER can know about your hypertension & allergy to penicillin; your treatment will be modified.

      Romneycare a failure?
      http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/romneycare-facts-and-falsehoods/
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01/20/romney-care-massachusetts-healthcare-reform/2/
      http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/is_romneycare_a_success_or_a_failure.php

    • Eileen you’ve told us more about the problems with healthcare here which is fine but my article is about why Obamacare is not a viable solution. Now I agree with most of what you have shared for sure. Romneycare hasn’t worked for MA and Obamacare won’t work for the entire nation – point blank. We need to start with the 2 suggestions I gave in the article which allow the market to begin working things out itself by driving down costs. I pray that the justices see it that way also!

  5. Deborah Seneca says:

    Great post Talitha. I posted a link on my Facebook page and hope many others will read it. I’m so thankful individuals like you are here speaking out. Please keep writing.

    • Thanks so much Deborah, I greatly appreciate it and I am humbled. People need to know the truth about Obamacare and I pray the SCOTUS makes the right decision – to repeal it entirely.

  6. Frank Colangelo says:

    Excellent article, Talitha!!!!!!! Enjoyed reading every rational word of it!!

  7. George M. says:

    Very chilling. The Supreme Court’s ruling regarding Obamacare will determine if there is even the remote possibilty of restoring constitutional government in this country. Let’s hope thee are at least 5 sane people on the Supreme Court. If the members, in total, are sane, the verdict in this case will be unanimous in strking down this dangerous, and unconstitutional expansion of the federal government’s power.

  8. Richard Gibson says:

    Talitha, Everytime I read one of your columns I sit back, and am glad to know I’m not alone in my logic. I believe one only has to look at the post office, their answer for people complaining about the long waits, remove the clocks. I enjoy and look forward to your next post, keep up the good fight.

    • Amen Richard! I heard that about the Post Office and then started noticing that very fact when I used a few post offices – that shows us how the government could really care less when we complain & they try to fix it by trying to deceive us – the feds could never handle healthcare!

  9. Someone messaged me because they couldn’t open the link from this sentence “They are referring to the 1790?s when the first Congress did in fact require shipowners and seaman to buy medical insurance.”Now I was able to open it fine but here is the actual link just in case:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/29099806/Act-for-the-Relief-of-Sick-DisabledSeamen-July-1798

  10. Joy M. says:

    Great article Talitha! always meticulously researched and your humor & frankness always makes for an easier, fun read! Definitely sharing this one!

  11. Eileen Evans says:

    ?Talitha McEachin my bad. I’ve attended at least 10 talks & hearings on healthcare reform. In addition to learning something new at each one, the stories are heartbreaking. Most are from middle class whites who have more access to resources than most of our folk.

    Human endeavors will never be perfect but governance is only a construct society uses. I’ve lived in cities that were well managed by folks who take ‘public service’ seriously & inhabited by enough responsible citizens who’ll accept nothing less. I’m offended by cynicism that derides the competence, professionalism, & sincerity of their efforts. The outcomes may not be perfect but at least they’re engaged in the process.

    As a result of poor access to affordable, quality healthcare, our communities inordinately suffer from AIDS, STDs, breast cancer, morbid obesity, hypertension, diabetes, etc. & our children from asthma. Most uninsured are employed. Pejoratives like ‘nanny state’ are bogus. On the real side, the insured already (& will continue to) foot the bill for the inequities with higher premiums for policies that are providing less coverage. Increased access to primary care saves money for the rest of us. Imagine the child brought to the ER with a severe asthma attack – cost for ER $1500, cost of office visit $60. BTW, that ER visit will only treat the event; access to primary care would reduce or eliminate future crises.

    Obamacare wasn’t unconstitutional until various industry segments started pitching in to make the numbers work. The individual mandate only applies to those w/o coverage by their employers. Premiums are subsidized & the penalty is negligible.The 1790 case you refer to is anecdotal; reform opponents are arguing arcane legal issues. When Scalia brought up broccoli, I thought about Dred Scott & Plessy vs. Ferguson.

    In 1993, Republicans didn’t lie & call it socialism:
    “….Mention European health care to an American, and it probably conjures up a negative stereotype — high taxes, long waiting lines, rationed care.”
    “It’s not that way in Germany. Very little tax money goes into the system. The lion’s share comes, as in America, from premiums paid by workers and employers to insurance companies”
    “Any German who needs after-hours care can call a central number and get connected to a doctor”
    “.. Not funded by government taxes. But it is compulsory. All German workers pay about 8 percent of their gross income to a nonprofit insurance company called a sickness fund. Their employers pay about the same amount. Workers can choose among 240 sickness funds”
    “Actually, it’s about the same proportion of income that American workers pay, on average, if they get their health insurance through their job. The big difference is that U.S. employers pay far more, on average, than German employers do — 18 percent of each employee’s gross income versus around 8 percent in Germany”
    “AND THEIR SYSTEM HAS BEEN WORKING PRETTY WELL FOR 125 YEARS!”
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91971406

    Claims that public sector always screws up absolve the private sector of the dumb things it’s done. It goes w/o saying that competence exists in all fields; informed consumers & citizens can raise the bar.

    “A study released last week found that a single tax break in 2004 earned companies $220 for every dollar they spent on the issue — a 22,000 percent rate of return on their investment.”(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/11/AR2009041102035.html )

    Why, when 66M Americans vote that our tax dollars improve our health, schools, infrastructure, air quality, water, etc., do so many buy into B.S. about socialism? Many of us ‘students of history’ are unnerved by growing parallels to medieval societies.

    • Obamacare is unconstitutional because it improperly uses the commerce clause & it is socialized medicine. Since insurance companies are forbidden from selling insurance across state lines, how can the commerce clause be applicable? that is my main point. We need to lift some restrictions on the insurance industry which will allow for more competition which will drive down prices, in my view that it a place to start but it obviously is not the entire answer of course but it’s a great start. See I don’t believe in big federal government of course so my answer would only involve the feds in terms of regulations. You are more optimistic than I, sure the individual mandate only involved those completely uninsured but how long do you think it will be before the entire industry is taken over just like the government has done with student loans?

  12. Frank Gilbert says:

    Great job Talitha. I enjoy reading your shared thoughts. I happen to agree with you on these things as well. Keep up the good work and thanks so much for sharing.

    • Thanks so much Frank, that is very encouraging! I am humbled.

    • Eileen Evans says:

      PPACA allows sales across states boundaries:
      “HHS, in conjunction with NAIC, will issue regulations by July 1, 2013 allowing states to enter into interstate compacts allowing insurers to sell products in the individual market across state lines. Each state wishing to participate in an interstate compact would need to enact legislation authorizing the compact and the compact is subject to HHS approval. Compacts cannot be in effect before January 1, 2016.”

      (https://www.bcbsri.com/BCBSRIWeb/pdf/Fact_Sheet_Federal_Reform_New_Insurers.pdf)

      This is socialized medicine:
      “Exact definitions vary, but the term refers to any system of medical care that is publicly financed and government administered. If the system of care is publicly financed and privately delivered, it is called a single-payer system. This is what Canada has.”

      “The original meaning was confined to systems in which the government operates health care facilities and employs health care professionals.[10][11][12][13] This narrower usage would apply to the British National Health Service hospital trusts and health systems that operate in other countries as diverse as Finland, Spain, Israel, and Cuba”
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialized_medicine

      Socialized medicine refers to health system in which the government owns and operates both the financing of health care and its delivery. Cell A in the chart represents socialized medicine.

      (http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/what-is-socialized-medicine-a-taxonomy-of-health-care-systems/)

      The exchanges will be the vehicles for competition. Obamacare is an initial ‘blueprint.’ Improving our healthcare delivery system presents unique challenges. Our models (the French & German) are smaller with dense population centers. We are 330M, diverse & spread from sea to shining sea. The state exchanges can set regional standards. The Act funds pilot projects to encourage innovation within states.

      Our health care delivery quality and costs are enmeshed with systems over which the industry has no control (e.g. Energy, agricultural, education, commerce, transportation, etc). The federal government is finally trying to set and implement policies to get everything going in the same direction. It’s the only entity that, in partnership with the private sector, can.

      “Said Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans, the industry trade group.
      …..insurers say they know they cannot fix many of the problems in the health care system without the support of the government. “This should be a public-private partnership to achieve the type of reform people are looking for,” said Mr. Zirkelbach.

      Everyone benefited when our children could pay for college with low interest loans from the taxes we paid. De-Regulation turned the program over to banks; their operating costs were higher and our taxes paid their bonuses! The U.S. no longer leads the world in producing the college graduates we need. Waste of our tax dollars has been eliminated by resuming direct student loans.

      Every insurance provider has its own unique operations & info systems. It’s a major element of waste & inefficiency. To get paid, healthcare providers need for more resources increased operating costs. HIPAA & PPACA integrate information systems so consumers can compare coverage. Sorry to disappoint but Big Brother isn’t interested in you.

      One objective of reforms ~ if you’re in a car accident while vacationing in Miami, the ER can know about your hypertension & allergy to penicillin; your treatment will be modified.

      Romneycare’s a failure? http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/romneycare-facts-and-falsehoods/
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01/20/romney-care-massachusetts-healthcare-reform/2/
      http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/is_romneycare_a_success_or_a_failure.php

  13. Eileen Evans you posted again & it was approved but it hasn’t shown up yet. Listen you’re posting a lot of things that are a bunch of links & quotes from various Liberal websites mostly. Supposedly, Obamacare is supposed to at some point allow health insurance sales across state lines, yes but #1 I don’t believe that will actually take place, #2 that still does not change the fact that it is unconstitutional and the commerce clause is not applicable, #3 even if all that you shared were true, we simply cannot afford Obamacare! See here: http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/cbo-obamacare-cost-176-trillion-over-10-yrs/425831 Now where is all of that money going to come from because the published methods of funding don’t cut it.

    The problem with it is that the commerce clause is being used to justify the individual mandate when it is irrelevant here because as of the moment Obamacare passed, health insurance sales were not occurring across state lines – that’s the bottom line. He can’t say “well, I have promised that WILL happen in…….” – it doesn’t work that way!

    • Eileen Evans says:

      Point of clarification ~ I’ve inserted verifiable information in reply to your post. Some following the thread can process it or not. No debates, refutation or conversion. You can & will believe what you want.
      Factcheck, Forbes, Columbia Journalism Review, Blue Cross/Blue Shield ~ liberal sites?

      “One former Bush Administration official is wrongly claiming that some of the savings in the Affordable Care Act are “double-counted” and that the law actually increases the deficit. This claim is false…. The Office of Management and Budget and Congressional Budget Office project lower Federal budget deficits as a result of the law.”

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/04/09/official-sources-agree-affordable-care-act-reduces-deficit

      This was on the Congressional Budget Office’s web site (posted 03-12-2012)

      “In preparing the March 2012 baseline budget projections, CBO and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) have updated estimates of the budgetary effects of the health insurance coverage provisions of the Affordable Care Act (ACA)—
      The Estimated Net Cost of the Insurance Coverage Provisions Is Smaller Than Estimated in March 2011
      CBO and JCT now estimate that the insurance coverage provisions of the ACA will have a net cost of just under $1.1 trillion over the 2012-2021 period-about $50 billion less than the agencies’ March 2011 estimate for that 10-year period”

      http://cbo.gov/publication/43080

      The numbers cited by the Washington Examiner should have been posted by now.

  14. Rick Nappier says:

    As a 3rd generation Haitian who grew up in Florida and now lives in almost-socialist California, my family has seen this thing called Obamacare before. Haiti, the poorest country in the western hemisphere, is such because the government has complete control. Cuba’s communism makes Haitians happily long for that day to come. I’ve been reading some of the pro-Obamacare posts and they look good in their two-dimensional forms. There are two main problems with Obamacare: mathematical and constitutional

    The mathematical, first. Working in the healthcare industry for twelve years, managed care by private insurers was necessary because there is a cost to everything. Managed care not only saved physicians and hospitals money, it saved employees and their families money, too. Without managed care, and with a healthcare system like Obamacare, any time little Johnny gets a cold, the parent would have take the kid to the doctor. Why? Because there would not be a mechanism to ask the parent to consider the cost of care or alternatives like calling a Nurse hotline (part of managed care) or buying an over-the-counter (OTC) medicine. Now multiply little Johnny’s scenario over millions of people who now feel they can take their kids to doctors every time there is a cough. Mutiply that by minor rashes, slight fevers, stubbed toes, sprained ankles, etc. To summarize, anytime something is perceived to be free, or have minimals barriers for access, the product or service is OVERUTILIZED. Any rational person has seen this behavior in action if he or she is honest with themselves. Think about how people behave when a product or service is “on-sale”.

    The constitutional. America has to stop going down this dark path of disregarding its Constitution. The United States has the oldest constitutions in the entire world. Some countries have written their laws of the land with the ideas and tone as the United States of America. With most interesting about world constitutions is the countries that are having the most problems are the nations that change their constitutions when a new president takes power or makes changes at the discretion of the dictator.

    The USA is not an Angola or a Czech Republic or an Ubekistan. This is why these countries have problems…because the paper their societies with which their citizens are supposed to live is not worth the ink on the paper. When there is no standard, the people get confused and start believing laws are not important… Coup d’etat…which is french for take over of the state or underthrown government. Coups d’etats are expected in governments where constitutions change which ever the direction the wind blows.

    We are Americans. Let’s keep it that way.

    • Rick Nappier that is such an excellent post & commentary. You should consider turning that into a blog perhaps. You nailed it! Centralized healthcare is ubiquitous among Socialist & Communist nations. You are absolutely right the US is not a Socialist nation & I will go as far as to say that those who want it or think that they want Socialism need to go and stay in one of the countries you named for a year or two and I promise you they will be more grateful for capitalism then. This healthcare issue is the Thermopylae of our time & Obamacare cannot stand or as a friend of mine recently said, “We’ll go from the USA to the USAA” Thanks so much for your comments!

  15. Rick Nappier says:

    Plus every person who has dealt with government knows that every dollar the government gets on ten cents makes it to its intended destination. The government takes the dollar and then has to study it ($), then set up committees ($), establish agencies to monitor programs ($), hire people to staff the agencies ($). By the time, the product has to be delivered to the citizens…WHAT? There is not enough money left to get the product or service to the people? Damn! We need 10 times more money than we thought! This is the case of: “You’ll find out what’s in the Bill after it’s passed” by Nancy Pelosi.

    • Amen again! there is way too much bureaucracy on the part of the federal government for Obamacare to make any sense or correct what is wrong with healthcare. Excellent points! I think I’ll share your comments with friends if that’s ok. People just don’t think about what you have shared & you are very wise my friend.

    • Rick Nappier says:

      You’re right! Most liberals have never lived in places other than America unless there were rich like Sean Penn. They assume that everything should be free like France. But what they don’t know is socialist countries pay super high taxes and the spirit of entrepreneurism is DEAD. No innovations, no new products, no desire to improve…just sit around, drink coffee and feed pidgeons and sleep in tiny 600sf apartments. Lol! But it’s true.

      The other part about Obamacare is that it is really setup to be an Universal Healthcare System at a moments notice. With today’s healthcare, it works when people have jobs. This is why I think the President’s economic policies are rigged to incentivize people for NOT looking for work, i.e., 2-3 year unemployment benefits! Yes people need healthcare if they are at home collecting $400-$500 per week and not working and receiving employer group healthcare.

      I’m sad to see America move this direction. Most Haitians know what it’s like to live with a crooked government. Many Haitians on the island are positive, capitalistic-minded people. People ask why? Well, Haiti kicked defeated France in 1789 and became the first free Black nation in the world. So Haiti celebrated its Independence from France just about the same time America’s Independence Day in 1776. Then, selfish dictators, like how Obama’s trending, do not want people to be free.

  16. Rick Nappier says:

    Yes, you can post it. I have a few typos in the content…so you can modify or I can email you corrected copy.

    • Thanks I will and that’s what people don’t get, countries in Europe for example tax their citizens something like 20% and EVERYONE pays taxes. Here almost 50% of the people are not paying federal taxes so this will never work for this & other reasons. America IS the land of capitalism and the only thing the federal government needs to do is ensure fair regulations & otherwise stay out of the markets – especially healthcare.

  17. Sandra Ort says:

    Great article. Some I think have had to much kook aid and can’t recover. But there were great post as usual.

  18. June Miller says:

    If Obamacare is so great then make it voluntary. Everyone will flock to it right???

  19. Exactly June! that’s the problem, that people are being FORCED to buy it or buy insurance period.

  20. Maureen G. says:

    WOnderful blog as usual and I couldn’t agree more! Obamanation must be repealed

  21. Maureen G. says:

    You’re very welcome young lady & you deserve it. I hope even more people get to read your stuff!

  22. Bob Lawrence says:

    Talitha, this is a great piece, very informative and well reasoned. You have a talent to put complex things in understandable words and phrases. I love your analogy of Trojan Horse or Pinata, it is a perfectly accurate description of the situation. Keep up the good work!

  23. Elder Lansing says:

    Justice Roberts declared the penalty for not opting in Obamacare a tax, when Obama and his minions LIED right to the American people and said it wasn’t a tax. The SCOTUS overstepped their bounds and this was pure judicial activism. People are going to lose their relationships with their family doctors and this may lead to rationing. The current system isn’t perfect, but Obamcare will lead to severe problems for america. Everything Obama touches turns to dung!

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